What captured your imagination in the story of Ellis
Island? Did any of your ancestors enter the country there?
None of my ancestors entered through Ellis Island. They came
too early, before the immigration station opened in 1892. But my
grandmother told me once about visiting there, more or less as a tourist,
in the early 1900s. She was a girl, and her do-gooding aunts were handing out Bibles to the new immigrants.
Your book has a unique format, a combination of narrative
history and letters, diary entries, poems,
monologues, and dialogues about individuals, some real people, some
fictional, but representative of real group. In essence, this is combination of
nonfiction and historical fiction. How did you come up with this format?
I really don’t like it when a nonfiction book has what are
clearly fictional (made-up) bits. I wanted to have a combination of fiction and
nonfiction but make it clear which was which. Also, I wanted to make sure that
all of the fictional elements—the poems, monologues, diary entries,
letters—were based solidly in fact.
From the tale of a Lenni Lenape boy to the Irish
immigrant Annie Moore, and the workers who helped process the immigrants, the
personal entries in your book resonate with emotion. Do you have favorites
among these individuals? Who?
One favorite is the story of Danny and Grandpa Salvatore. In
it, a grandfather reluctantly and with great fear tells his grandson the truth
about how he came to America. I based the story on a true story told to me by
Jeff Dosik, one of the Ellis Island librarians, about a man who had wanted so
desperately to become American that he swam from Ellis to Jersey City.
Did you travel to Ellis island? Could you describe
something of your research process?
I’ve been to Ellis Island twice, once as a tourist and once
as a researcher. When researching, I made sure to visit the Bob
Hope Memorial Library. It’s full of great information and photographs. I
also spoke with people in the Oral
History department and listened to interview with immigrants to Ellis
Island.
Did your writing process differ when dealing with the
historical narrative versus the individual entries? Which did you enjoy writing
most?
It was important to make the chapter introductions—the
nonfiction bits—as clear as possible to give readers context for the fictional
pieces. I really loved writing the fictional monologues, dialogues, letters,
diary entries. In general, I started with a particular written source or a
historical photograph, which helped to ground the fiction in historical fact.
How have your readers responded to the book? How does it
support the Common Core?
I’ve had great responses presenting the book to kids,
particularly in middle schools. Hope and
Tears fits in nicely with the Common Core requirement for reading
informational texts.
In terms of specific standards, look at RI 5.6: Analyze
multiple accounts of the same event or topic, noting important similarities and
differences in the point of view they represent. Students can read multiple
accounts of the immigrant experience, looking for similarities and differences
in the journeys and in what happens upon arrival at Ellis Island.
Your other work is a short story from a much later period
in history, the 1963 Freedom March. What drew you to this topic? You have a
family connection to the event, right?
The story itself
comes from the real-life journey my father and grandfather
took in August 1963, when
they boarded a bus in Indianapolis bound for the historic March on Washington, where Dr. Martin Luther King delivered the
“I Have a Dream” speech. Along they way, the “mixed” crowd of blacks and whites
on the bus had trouble finding restaurants that would serve them.
Why did you choose to focus on the trip to the Freedom
March rather than the march itself?
I was intrigued by
the idea of focusing on the journey to the March, rather than on the event
itself. After all, anyone who went to the March on Washington was making
history, even before the speakers started talking from in front of the Lincoln
Memorial.
What
were some of your challenges in writing this story?
The challenge with
“Riding to Washington” was taking a real story and transforming it into
fiction. I knew right away that I wanted to make the story interesting to kids,
so even though none of the children in my family went to the March, I made sure
the main character in “Riding” was a child—a girl who’s a bit of a
trouble-maker at home.
How
did this anthology come about? What was it like working on a collaborative
project like this?
Riding
to Washington was first
published as a picture book with illustrations by David Geister. The publisher,
Sleeping Bear Press,
is very savvy. They’ve seen that kids in grades 2-4 are avid readers of
history. So they re-formatted three historical picture books (one by me and two
by Gloria Whelan) and put them together as American Adventures: Voices for Freedom. All three stories touch on some aspect of black history.
You’ve
written over two dozen other books on a wide range of historical topics. Could
you tell us about some of your other work?
My other recent book
is a You Choose adventure. You know, the books where at the end of every few
pages, you have to decide what the character does. Mine is World War I: An Interactive
Adventure, published by Capstone, which has many You Choose books. It was fun
to write, and I’ve even gotten fan mail from readers!
What
are your plans for the future? What other topics have captured your interest?
On my story slinger blog,
I’m doing a series of posts on a favorite topic: the history of one-room
schools in America. I’m calling the series “One-Room Nation.” It’s a chance to showcase my research and
photos of one-room schools, and I’ve gotten a great reaction so far.
Thank
you so much for being a guest on my blog!
Thank
you, Linda. It’s a treat to be interviewed by you!
Readers
can find out more about Gwenyth Swain and her work at www.gwenythswain.com. You can also visit her blog
at http://story-slinger.blogspot.com/.
2 comments:
Wonderful interview, Linda. Thank you for sharing.
Thank you for stopping by!
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